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Video fly casting distance

There seems to be an eternal strive among fly-anglers to cast further. Only a few anglers do actually cast really far, and the fish don’t necessarily bite on the fly, which is cast the longest distance. In spite of this fact a lot of casting discussions are about casting distance rather than about casts, which catch fish.

Casting lies

It is probably mainly saltwater anglers who have introduced this strive for distance. Let there be no doubt that casting distance can be an advantage in saltwater as well as on other waters. That has led to a natural development towards equipment that yields some extra yards in the cast. Fast rods, complex tapers, slick coatings, smooth shooting lines, clips, baskets, lubricants and what-have-you has been brought to market to satisfy the urge for distance. Saltwater fishers are not the only ones to blame for this fight for distance. Stream anglers are welcome to join in. Why is it that the best fish always seem to be under the far bank, when it appears to be a spitting image of the near one? People seem to have plenty good arguments to fish the opposite bank rather than your own, which is after all much closer.

Well then. How far is far? And how far can an angler actually cast when push comes to shove?

The famous 60 meters cast

When I talk casting with my fishing friends, we often mention an angler, whom we all know, and who consistently claims to be able to cast 60 meters or about 170 feet under good conditions. Few casters are that optimistic, but the number 40 meters or around 130 feet is often heard as a bid for the distance of a really good cast. I also read an entry in a Danish discussion forum, written by a distraught angler who was depressed because he could “only cast 24 meters”. That’s “only 78 feet”.

60… 40… 24… what is good and what bad?

That question plus my own impression of myself as a mediocre fly caster made me curious.

I wanted to find out how far a fly-angler can cast.

I wanted to find out how far a fly-angler can cast.

Real casting distance

I started looking for information on real casting distances for ordinary anglers and for anglers who are known to be able to cast really far.

And let me make one thing certain right away: very few fly anglers cast further than 238 feet or about 72 meters and 50 centimeters with a one-hand rod. Because that is the official world record in fly casting set by the American caster Steve Rajeff. He has cast 248 feet (75.6 m) in Pretoria, South Africa in 1997, but that record was not officially registered due to too much wind. Casters who on occasion cast up towards 80 meters or more than 260 feet have been reported, like the Welsh casting demon Hywell Morgan. But the official record stands and belongs to Rajeff.

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Casts like Rajeff’s and Morgan’s are only done under special circumstances and with special gear. We mortals cannot expect to come near that, even when casting on a lawn, and much less when casting on water.

How far is far?

Record casts are done with special rods and lines, which adhere to the official rules for casting tournaments. A one-hand set-up consists of a rod, which is shorter or equal to 9’9″. The AFTM class is optional, but somewhere between 10 and 13 is common. The shooting head length is limited to 49’3″ or just above 15 meters, and it must weigh less than 650 grains or some 42 grams. The leader must be more than 6 and less than 12′ or some 2-3.5 m. There’s a fly on the leader and the cast is measured to where this fly lands. The choice of shooting line is free, but thin monofilament is usually the order of the day.

Grass and power

Tournament casts are performed standing on grass, and are usually done with elaborate casting movements and lots of power combined with a very well developed technique. Not to mention preparation, mainly consisting in laying out the shooting line in large coils on the ground.

So really long tournament casts are done under some circumstances and with some gear, which is very far from what the rest of us use.

Below I list the US casting instructor Jim C. Chapralis’ bids on casting lengths for different types of anglers. Chapralis’ list is based on gear of a more common character, namely a sturdy 9′ rod for a 9 or 10 weight line, loaded with a 300 grains shooting head and a stiff and smooth, easy-handling shooting line. In other words fairly heavy equipment, but certainly something that can be used for fishing. It’s still a far cry from the average angler’s 4-7 weight rod loaded with a weight forward line, but still…

There are several things to note about this list.

  • Casts shorter than 90 feet or 27 meters do not impress Chaprelis. Most of us are in that end of the scale. And ordinary WF-line is 85-90 feet or some 27 meters long. Only the minority of fly anglers can cast out a whole line.
  • Casts longer than 160 feet or 50 meters are for the super elite in casting, and nothing that anybody will obtain under normal fishing conditions.
  • Casts longer than 190 feet or 60 meters are very rare. Even with specially tuned casting gear.

So the friend I mentioned in the intro might be well advised to adjust his optimistic estimates of his casting distance.

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Gear for practical fishing

If you want to beat a world record the recipe is a 10-12 weight rod with a spine beyond the average, an extremely heavy and long shooting head and a shooting line that’s impossible to handle – which by the way has to be arranged neatly on the ground before every cast. Not really the recipe for stealth, elegant presentations or practical fishing altogether. My own equipment for average fishing with some need for distance is a rod between 8’8″ and 10′ for a line in the 5 to 7 weight range, a shooting head of about 10 meters or 32′ weighing between 14 and 18 grams or half an ounce plus a bit. The shooting line is braided sometimes coated. I never use monofilament.

60 feet is far away!

Until recently I had never measured my casts, but I have always known that I only rarely – like in never – cast 90 feet or 27 meters. My flies mostly fall within the 20 meters or in the 65 foot range. Among the guys I usually fish with there are a couple who might sometimes reach the 35 meters mark or get out to 115 feet under the right wind conditions. That’s measuring the line out of the tip top and not the distance to the fly.

But 60 meters or 200 feet? I think not!

To get more evidence on these distances we packed a measuring tape and some rods and ventured off to a local park.

Let me tell you right away that once the measuring tape was fully rolled out I started getting cold feet! The tape was a mere 20 meters or just 65 feet. 65 feet is far away! Like really far away.

To make things even worse we measured out and additional 20 meters and that was when I realized that I have never cast 40 meters (130 feet) and hardly even 30 (close to 100 feet).

The measure tape doesn’t lie

This took place on a calm afternoon, and the wind we usually prefer to help carrying the line and straighten the leader just wasn’t there. Personally my best cast was about 25 meters or 80 feet and my shortest casts were just under 20 meters or 65 feet. The best among us laid out about 35 meters, which is 115 feet, and the average for our group was probably in the 20-25 meters interval or between 65 and 80 feet. This was using the gear we use every fishing day on the Danish coast: 9-9½ foot 5-7 weight rods with shooting heads and different types of shooting lines. Most of us had a hard time stretching the leader and more often than not the fly would land behind the front part of the leader and even behind the tip of the fly line.

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It was no surprise that the combination of line and rod had a great influence on the casting length. It was also obvious that the AFTM weight of the rod and line had little effect on the casting length as long as the combo was well matched.

What the experts say

During the Danish Fly Festival in Kolding I grabbed the opportunity to talk about casting with some of the real experts in the area:

  • Local Danish angler, FFF casting instructor Lars Christian Bentsen
  • Swiss Günther Feuerstein leader of FFF’s European casting program
  • Henrik Mortensen, renowned Danish salmon angler, casting instructor and developer for Danish Scierra

Their common conclusion is that few casters can cast a full WF line. With a shooting head a casting distance of 30 meters/100 feet or more is decent. Most fish are caught closer than 15-20 meters or 50 feet and then some. Very few fly-anglers can cast 40 meters or 130 feet and when they do it’s not a beautiful sight, and the fly will most likely not be the part of the rig, which is furthest away.

How do we get better?

There are a few ways to get better. In order of importance – providing your rod, line and leader are not totally out of sync.

  1. Technique is number one, and here I am first and foremost referring to a basic cast with a WF line. Timing has to be perfect and a double haul is a natural part of a good distance cast.
  2. Practice is number two. Without practice you won’t learn it. In other words: spend a lot of time with the fly rod, cast under difficult circumstances, train the strokes and cast on grass to keep the skills alive and tune the details in the cast when you can’t go fishing.
  3. Trim the gear as the third issue. Make sure rod and line are well matched to each other and your casting style. Underlining is a common problem for the inexperienced. Most rods handle heavier lines than specified and will load with less line out when the line is a bit on the heavy side. Also consider the leader. A good leader will stretch well and help making a short cast longer. If you are a shooting head caster, consider using a longer head of the same weight. WF casters can choose a line with a longer head. The longer head will enable you to have more line in the air and get a longer cast.
  4. Self criticism and other caster’s comments is number four. Look at yourself, film yourself on video, cast on grass together with others and comment each other’s casting.
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Ethan Smith is a seasoned marine veteran, professional blogger, witty and edgy writer, and an avid hunter. He spent a great deal of his childhood years around the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest in Arizona. Watching active hunters practise their craft initiated him into the world of hunting and rubrics of outdoor life. He also honed his writing skills by sharing his outdoor experiences with fellow schoolmates through their high school’s magazine. Further along the way, the US Marine Corps got wind of his excellent combination of skills and sought to put them into good use by employing him as a combat correspondent. He now shares his income from this prestigious job with his wife and one kid. Read more >>